Edited for clarity and to remove profanity:

Don’t slander John Draize.  He is dead, and no-one uses the Draize test any more.

This was actually a comment on a post I wrote a while ago.  I was really annoyed by this request.  It was not politely worded — I have cleaned it up A LOT.  If you want me to take you seriously, write a polite request, okay?  

I have three points to make in my rebuttal of this argument.

(1) I don’t think I’m “slandering” John Draize.  I’m telling the truth about him.  He invented a test that involves mutilating animals by putting chemicals in their eyes that damages their eye-tissue.  Is that a lie of any kind?  An exaggeration?  In what way?  Explain to me how that is slander, exactly.  Perhaps I should have been more careful to emphasize that the Draize test has probably saved a lot of people from cosmetics that may “irritate” (irritate=damage in animal testing euphemism) their eyes — but I think I made it fairly clear that I think the Draize test is of toxicological value — I’m promoting tests that provide the same information the Draize test does in a less horrific way.  (I find the slander thing kind of funny — I never said Mr. Draize was involved in any kind of scandalous affair with an underage stripper or embezzling money from a pension plan, and the whole slander thing strikes me as amusingly old-fashioned.  Maybe someone will invite me to duel at dawn after besmirching Mr. Draize’s good name?)

(2) Second, it’s true Dr. Draize is dead.  Why shouldn’t I reveal the truth — or as you call it “slander” — about a man who caused a huge amount of animal suffering and mutilation just because he is dead? Should I not say negative things about Nazi medical doctors who basically performed Draize-like tests on live human beings?  Most of the Nazi doctors are dead too (as far as we know . . . ).  Should I be nice about Doctors Rascher, Eppinger, Heissmeyer, Verschuer, Clauberg, and Mengele?  Doctors who used people “as guinea pigs” in brutal medical experiments in concentration camps? Like Dr. Rascher, who immersed over 300 people in ice baths to discover how long pilots could survive in the frozen North Sea after their planes went down?  And who asked to move his laboratory from Dachau to Auschwitz because there was more space at Auschwitz so his victims’ screaming as their limbs froze wouldn’t disturb his wife’s sleep? (Source.I think once you pass a certain level of atrocity you lose your right to have only good spoken about you after you are dead.  

 (3) You claim the Draize test isn’t used any more?  According to Johns Hopkins and the 3R Research Foundation in Switzerland, it’s still in use.  Please cite your source for your claim that the Draize test isn’t used any more.  Really, I’d like to know.  I’m not a toxicologist — tell me the Draize test isn’t used any more, and I’ll be very happy.


Categories : against animal testing, cruelty free, dear emily

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  1. Natasha

    March 5th, 2009 at 8:33 am

    People are ridiculous huh? Honestly I’ll never understand them ever. No one in the right mind would defend that serial killer!John was a heartless piece of crap . What he did to innocent animals was horrific and HE should have been tortured to death.

  2. Emily

    March 5th, 2009 at 6:43 pm

    Seriously! People are ridiculous. Though I think the scientific community is still full of animal serial killers like Mr. Draize.

  3. Natasha

    March 6th, 2009 at 8:15 am

    Yeah there are still so many serial killers in the scientific community .It’s horrible! They should be locked up!

  4. Wendy Koenigsmann

    March 10th, 2009 at 7:13 pm

    I personally don’t have a liking for scientists and doctors, most of them either go into the business for money, or don’t really care about their patients. I know that sounds biased, but it’s just something I’ve observed (I am related to some of these types so I know what they are like), and also have concluded due to what I’ve heard from other people. And it’s amazing at the large amount of evil people out there, including those who would attack your website.

  5. Emily

    March 12th, 2009 at 5:58 pm

    Hi Wendy! Oh you’re so nice to defend me against people who attack this website. :)

    Yeah, it is amazing how many scientists and doctors aren’t very caring people. You’d think it would be the opposite, but no . . .

  6. yacklyn

    January 3rd, 2010 at 11:25 am

    Someone actually said to me yesterday, “there’s too many rabbits born by the minute so what’s the diff?” Ignorant biddy.

  7. yacklyn

    January 3rd, 2010 at 11:25 am

    oops, I shouldn’t have said ignorant biddy. Sorry

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