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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/2008/04/12/paint-that-hasnt-been-cruelly-tested-on-animals/#comment-48441</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 22:35:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Lee Ann!  That's awful about Kilz -- yuuuuuuuuck.  Good for you for looking into other options!  I'm thrilled :)

If you try any of the paints I've listed above or find another one somewhere else, please tell me how it goes!  :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Lee Ann!  That&#8217;s awful about Kilz &#8212; yuuuuuuuuck.  Good for you for looking into other options!  I&#8217;m thrilled <img src='http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If you try any of the paints I&#8217;ve listed above or find another one somewhere else, please tell me how it goes!  <img src='http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Lee Ann</title>
		<link>http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/2008/04/12/paint-that-hasnt-been-cruelly-tested-on-animals/#comment-48138</link>
		<dc:creator>Lee Ann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 27 Oct 2008 00:34:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I just checked out the Kilz website, and in their safety information it actually says "Eye - Rabbit...Skin - Rabbit...Inhalation - Rat...Inhalation - Mouse...INGESTION - Rat...INGESTION - Mouse".  I'm absolutely sick.  They made the poor creatures drink the stuff. arggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!  I'll never buy Kils again.  I'm looking around for options now.  Of course the best stuff is in Australia, about as far away from the Mid-Atlantic as you can get.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I just checked out the Kilz website, and in their safety information it actually says &#8220;Eye - Rabbit&#8230;Skin - Rabbit&#8230;Inhalation - Rat&#8230;Inhalation - Mouse&#8230;INGESTION - Rat&#8230;INGESTION - Mouse&#8221;.  I&#8217;m absolutely sick.  They made the poor creatures drink the stuff. arggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh!  I&#8217;ll never buy Kils again.  I&#8217;m looking around for options now.  Of course the best stuff is in Australia, about as far away from the Mid-Atlantic as you can get.</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/2008/04/12/paint-that-hasnt-been-cruelly-tested-on-animals/#comment-47074</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 25 Oct 2008 00:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Katie -- you're very welcome, and thanks for catching the bad link!  I hope you receive some traffic from my site.

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Katie &#8212; you&#8217;re very welcome, and thanks for catching the bad link!  I hope you receive some traffic from my site.</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/2008/04/12/paint-that-hasnt-been-cruelly-tested-on-animals/#comment-46175</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:45:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>http://devinecolor.com</description>
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		<title>By: Katie</title>
		<link>http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/2008/04/12/paint-that-hasnt-been-cruelly-tested-on-animals/#comment-46173</link>
		<dc:creator>Katie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Oct 2008 22:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your link to Devine Color goes to another website. Here is the correct address. Thanks for including us in your article.
katie</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your link to Devine Color goes to another website. Here is the correct address. Thanks for including us in your article.<br />
katie</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
		<link>http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/2008/04/12/paint-that-hasnt-been-cruelly-tested-on-animals/#comment-33758</link>
		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Sep 2008 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Stinky,

Thanks for writing in -- not that I don't disbelieve your points, but do you have any sources that support them?  I don't really know much about MSDS reports, so I'd love to learn more.  

Also -- I'm a little confused by your proposition that tests were performed on individual chemicals, not the paint itself, and that makes them okay.  I don't think that is true.  Most animal testing isn't actually performed on finished products -- this is why "finished product not tested on animals" is such a lie by implication.  Most companies just test initial ingredients on animals.  Also, whether or not Behr ran the tests themselves is not an issue -- if they commissioned the tests from a different laboratory, or just decided not to make sure their paint ingredients weren't tested on animals, I hold Behr responsible for the animal testing of their products.  I think of them as just outsourcing animal testing.  

Also, whether or not vitamin A has an MSDS report is not an issue for me -- it's the company that produces a product that I want to know did or did not do animal testing.  Most chemicals at one time were tested on animals.  Every shampoo ingredient invented in the past fifty years.  I don't not use current shampoos that aren't tested on animals because their ingredients were in the far distant past once tested on animals.  I'd have to give up all of my toiletries.  If Behr came out and said, look, this MSDS on our paint ingredients was done totally not at our behest, I'd be okay with them.  I'm just not entirely convinced by your argument that Behr wasn't involved in torturing rats for their paint in the first place.  But if you have further arguments and sources to support your point, I'd love to change my mind!

Regards,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Stinky,</p>
<p>Thanks for writing in &#8212; not that I don&#8217;t disbelieve your points, but do you have any sources that support them?  I don&#8217;t really know much about MSDS reports, so I&#8217;d love to learn more.  </p>
<p>Also &#8212; I&#8217;m a little confused by your proposition that tests were performed on individual chemicals, not the paint itself, and that makes them okay.  I don&#8217;t think that is true.  Most animal testing isn&#8217;t actually performed on finished products &#8212; this is why &#8220;finished product not tested on animals&#8221; is such a lie by implication.  Most companies just test initial ingredients on animals.  Also, whether or not Behr ran the tests themselves is not an issue &#8212; if they commissioned the tests from a different laboratory, or just decided not to make sure their paint ingredients weren&#8217;t tested on animals, I hold Behr responsible for the animal testing of their products.  I think of them as just outsourcing animal testing.  </p>
<p>Also, whether or not vitamin A has an MSDS report is not an issue for me &#8212; it&#8217;s the company that produces a product that I want to know did or did not do animal testing.  Most chemicals at one time were tested on animals.  Every shampoo ingredient invented in the past fifty years.  I don&#8217;t not use current shampoos that aren&#8217;t tested on animals because their ingredients were in the far distant past once tested on animals.  I&#8217;d have to give up all of my toiletries.  If Behr came out and said, look, this MSDS on our paint ingredients was done totally not at our behest, I&#8217;d be okay with them.  I&#8217;m just not entirely convinced by your argument that Behr wasn&#8217;t involved in torturing rats for their paint in the first place.  But if you have further arguments and sources to support your point, I&#8217;d love to change my mind!</p>
<p>Regards,</p>
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		<title>By: Stinky</title>
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		<dc:creator>Stinky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Aug 2008 10:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While it is true that all of the chemicals listed in the MSDS are tested on animals, it is not fair to say that the paint itself is tested on animals.

The information contained on the Behr MSDS sheets reflects tests that were performed on the individual chemicals contained in the paint, not the paint itself, and not necessesarily at the request of Behr either.

ALL chemicals, including innocuos things like vitamins and "non toxic" chemicals are tested, or have been tested, on animals, at some point in time.

(Do a search for "Vitamin A MSDS")

I am not defending anyone nor is this an endorsment of Behr paint.

I just wanted to shed some light on this and encourage people to dig a little deeper and understand the information presented to them before jumping to any rash conclusions.

(Yes, I am a Vegan)

Stinky</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While it is true that all of the chemicals listed in the MSDS are tested on animals, it is not fair to say that the paint itself is tested on animals.</p>
<p>The information contained on the Behr MSDS sheets reflects tests that were performed on the individual chemicals contained in the paint, not the paint itself, and not necessesarily at the request of Behr either.</p>
<p>ALL chemicals, including innocuos things like vitamins and &#8220;non toxic&#8221; chemicals are tested, or have been tested, on animals, at some point in time.</p>
<p>(Do a search for &#8220;Vitamin A MSDS&#8221;)</p>
<p>I am not defending anyone nor is this an endorsment of Behr paint.</p>
<p>I just wanted to shed some light on this and encourage people to dig a little deeper and understand the information presented to them before jumping to any rash conclusions.</p>
<p>(Yes, I am a Vegan)</p>
<p>Stinky</p>
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		<title>By: Emily</title>
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		<dc:creator>Emily</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 06:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Tammy,

I'm so glad you enjoyed my post.  I shall have to check out afm safecoat -- it sounds like an excellent addition to the list!

Regards,
Emily</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Tammy,</p>
<p>I&#8217;m so glad you enjoyed my post.  I shall have to check out afm safecoat &#8212; it sounds like an excellent addition to the list!</p>
<p>Regards,<br />
Emily</p>
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		<title>By: Tammy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Apr 2008 01:52:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gasp! Thanks for bringing this to light!  How about the brand afm safecoat (afmsafecoat.com)? They try to eliminate any toxic ingredients from their paints and claim no animal testing.  I looked at a couple MSDS, and the toxicity portion lists no toxic ingredients...??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gasp! Thanks for bringing this to light!  How about the brand afm safecoat (afmsafecoat.com)? They try to eliminate any toxic ingredients from their paints and claim no animal testing.  I looked at a couple MSDS, and the toxicity portion lists no toxic ingredients&#8230;??</p>
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		<title>By: Raffaella</title>
		<link>http://www.livingcrueltyfree.com/2008/04/12/paint-that-hasnt-been-cruelly-tested-on-animals/#comment-3628</link>
		<dc:creator>Raffaella</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 13:49:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Emily,

I too didn't know about this, I will investigate!!!!
But..as I told you about toys...nothing surprise me, not any more!

Thank you, once again!

P.S. Check your mail later on!

Regards, Raffaella</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Emily,</p>
<p>I too didn&#8217;t know about this, I will investigate!!!!<br />
But..as I told you about toys&#8230;nothing surprise me, not any more!</p>
<p>Thank you, once again!</p>
<p>P.S. Check your mail later on!</p>
<p>Regards, Raffaella</p>
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